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Tuesday, February 27, 2007


well, i feel so dead. haven started.
too many distractions.
i wanted to mug whole-heartedly.
came to my room. shut room. gets air-con engine going.
tune in to iTunes. blast music.
sat in front of com.
and i started reading people's blogs and frensters.
2 hours later,
mum told me to go living room to lao yu sheng.
i went there and sat in front of der tv for 3hrs.
worst still, andrea jux jio me for some online spree.
that invoke me in doing online shopping right now.

well, and camwhore for 30mins.


someone scold me; kill my addictions
before i find myself beyond cure.

10:03 PM






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我的姑奶奶。。 我想哭啊!今天的试卷不会很难。是他妈的难!完了。。原本安慰自己说,别人也一定觉得难,没想到一出考场就听见人家兴奋的欢呼试卷有多容易就有多容易。妈呀,算了。天生我材必有用!吃不了这行饭也没办法。就看着办吧。悲。


i find it easier to express in chinese. i dunno why. perhaps thats why xiuying, tong, jel all have chinese blogs bah. lols. but english blogs are still better for me (: in case my english "deprove". :p

Phew... I hate exams... x_x says:
u should sleep at lest 5 hours?
or else ur brain will be too tired
to handle all these task
esp database
too many chuck of info
if u gonna stay up late
sleep for 3-4 hours at least
last min revision is no use
cfm forget
fresh mind go handle ur paper
anw
database if u haven started
is very atrocious
too many to study liao
so no point to burn mid night oil

well. part of wad beng hwee said in our msn conversation terrified me badly.
i haven started. God~~

1:27 AM






OOAD sucks.
no more A. my A? fly fly away.
was upset demoralized down. but.
i'll still pray hard that i'll still have chance for A in OOAD.
hahahahaaa.. die also want A!
MODERATION makes dreams possible.
:D

haven start my networking revision. hehe.
but man, i was happy. i slept for 3 hrs aft i rch home.



left wit 6 hrs? 1 hr per chpt.
shld be alrights. (:
another round of war will start straight after publishing this entry.

by the way; my YIDA is coming back to rock this town x)
love.

12:28 AM





Monday, February 26, 2007



close. im very close to this already.
seeing black and white only for now.
and brown. my coffee.
yet there're people burning offerings at this hour.
(no offence)
but i think they must be out of their mind.
its drying my eyes up and it hurts; making me sleepy.

my only motivation.
stomp stomp stomppp!
well. im desperately for an A for OOAD.

1:49 AM





Sunday, February 25, 2007


grunch teeth. grunch hard hard.
now then i feel der urgency to mug.
not too bad;
my almighty father will deliver wisdom to me (:
wont be slpin tonight lers.
WEISHAN! JIAYOU!!!!!

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晕了。这下子真的是要晕了。。
天啊!! 赐阿里巴巴的神灯救我吧!!
我要回我的 networking 课本!我快要急疯了。。 省微微两口气。。

i left my stack of textbooks n notes in clubrm. ive only got a 1 gig thumbdrive wit me. my only lifeline left. alibaba, i wan my textbook~ i haven haven start revising.

going for morning svc tmr.
God. change me. im horribly incorrigible. im such a mean girl.
change me. change me. change me.

3:15 AM






okay. im hot over some idoitic people.

i seriously have some problems wit my neighbour.
ONLY one hsehold.
THAT one above mine.
IM NOT SCARED BUT I HATE BUMPING INTO EM.

aft having this kind of neighbour, i then understand why joo chiat road got neighbours quarrel. neighbours r supposed to help each other in times of need AND be frenly. because of THAT family, NO PEACE. NO PEACE FOR ME.

i bump into der fat girl and her family while waiting for lift. i was facing jiajia, keh luh n taigor AND she say sth lyk that to her family,
"never step on her tail face so black for wad? haha."

MIND YOU! DONT EVER MAKE A JOKE OUT OF ME. YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS TO DO SO. IM NOT FACING YOU AND YOU SAY MY FACE BLACK? CRAP. PATHETIC.
HOW OLD ARE YOU ALREADY? SO CHILDISH? I'LL BE A LIAR IF I SAY YOU STILL HAVE SOME BRAINS IN YOU. OF MAYBE THERE ARE, BUT NERVES AINT WORKING!

OBVIOUSLY i told her back.
"HAHAHA. FAT until this size still wear until lyk that."
oh man. did i mention she was VERY inconsiderate? whenever i bump into her, she wears so looooosely and have no boobs to show. causing frenly neighbours lyk me to have sore eyes. poor me.

oh well, she was VERY angry aft hearing that. she kept pressing der buttons hoping der lift door wld open so she cld do sth to me. WELL, me too. im waiting for door to open. well, c'mon. insult me n slap me. i'll do nothing back. i'll just report case to police wit hidden smile. making sure u're jailed for at least one or two months. spoiling your future. im happy, so what?

and this idoit has been provoking me since dunno when. she diao me whenever i bump into her. things happened since her bro(my pri sch, same batch) call me yaya duck. supposed to be my nickname, and i dont mind my besties all calling me that, for fun (: BUT, this idoit boy called me that n made fun of me. i still thought i SHOULD be respectful to older ones. so i greet her mum everytime UNTIL i heard that her mum ALSO GOT NO BRIANS AND GOT CRAZY with em joking at me. DARN. of course i DIAO her mum

people lyk em r hard to forgive.
i'll try. cos im forgiven to forgive (:

BUT!
just one small reminder,
if that family ever step on my tail again, or talk bad abt my family, by hook or by crook i make sure some policemen ring their doorbell.


我不是好欺负的 OKAY!
BIMBO.
oh, so sorry to call u that. u're not one. according to dictionary, bimbo have no brains but looks. TOO BAD. you DONT HAVE ANY LOOKS. so sad.
GOODNIGHT MY GOOOOOOOOOD NEIGHBOUR (:


(so INAUSPICIOUS to see em during new year. wash eye~~)

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Saturday, February 24, 2007


HELLOS! wanted to blog. but was too tired then. hahas.
so blogging in midnight noooow.

FIRST;
before everything, i wanna thank one person.

because of you;
i see rainbows in my life now.
promise me
never let these colours end (:

SECOND;
i did a blogskin for theodore.
lyk so finally. he's changing his URL soon i think.
its a simple skin.

http://www.theodore-bb3rdcoy.blogspot.com

THIRD;
初四 of cny. had much fun wit my poly clique (:
woke up at 1pm, then slacked for few hours. called tong yi at ard 3.30pm; shes still sleeping! oh. did i mention that we're supposed to meet at 4pm, at choa chu kang control? that girl still thought im playing prank on her. -.-|| after some time, she finaaaally REALISED that im for real. lols. we started to plan out. as in how to come choa chu kang etc (mind you. this china pretty was staying at sengkang). hahas. obviously; she gonna be VERY late.

before i leave hse, i started to get nervous. as in, shld i bring mandarin oranges along wit me? it'll be lyk so toot.. lols. then i went to call jess to check out. she told me sth lyk, "BY RIGHT, we shld bring eh.. BUT HOR...." there, we came out wit an agreement to bring together so that even if we look weird, we look weird TOGETHER! hahaha.. the one who pang seh got to treat der other coffee bean's drinks.

so i happily left hse wit two oranges (:

EXPECTEDLY; xiuying was der first to rch. mux present her an award someday. then came me. reb n me waited a short while for jess, THERE! this girl has got a super mini-toony bag that obviously cant sqeeeeze 2 mandarin oranges!

me: hor hor! someone must treat me coffee bean lers!
jess: nono.. i got valid reason one....
me: WHAT?
jess: err.. my hse only left one mandarin orange ):

HAHAHHAHAHA. teeth drop. okay. reason "super valid".
too bad. jelinda cant come. shes down wit heavy flu if im not wrong. she missed out lotsa lame stuffs; i guess. hope she can recover faster then she can join us for other stuffs aft der exams!

then we went to Lot 1's NTUC. as planned, we supposed to have steamboat, then choco fondue at reb's place. so we went to buy some fruits and steamboat ingredients (we got abalone! :D) etc. jess was so funnie. she bought 5 mandarin oranges frm NTUC. hahaha. $1.95 for 5, u see. lyk jokers.

THERE THERE; my mum SO COINCIDENTALLY got off frm work and we bumped into her in that very small NTUC. sighs. and she invited em over to my place. SO; we changed plan. aft goin reb's hse for dinner, come to my place for fondue session. after buying all needed, some calculations, and i owe reb $12!! fourth day jiu qian money le.

and we proceeded to her place.



tong yi stunned us when she appear in her cheong sum! (:
i always wanted one. but too bad. i gotta do more work-outs first.



thanks arh JESS! lols..

and when we rch reb's hse, only her sis n bro was at home. okay lah her hse. as wad she says, her mum really reeeally put in a lot of effort in decorating der hse. one thing. I LIKE HER SOFA! so grande. haha.



pretty jess n me. guess i was der only one excited abt taking photos while der rest of em are busy preparing~ EH. wait. i oso got help okays! i helped to wash those vege n preparing table decorations! :p




ying, me and jess. err. =) out of busy-ness. haha;



moved a lil. and my whole face is blur.



evidence of being hardworking!!
(2 familiar shadows....)



Long Flat Semillion Sauvignon Blanc 2006 frm south eastern aust.
its some thick green apples mixed with some tropical fruits white wine. nice! but too bad, we couldnt finish em. no time :x
but its a good wine.



SEE! still not all ready yet hor! more to come!



OH. look at jess! :s
one thing i must must must mention. the hse is so not like reb's hse. she seems to know nothing in her hse. HAHAH. she goes lyk.. "err. IS IT? i dunno eh! wait arh! i go ask my sis n bro." faints. she dont even noe if her hse has got any apples when we're at NTUC. she told us cfm NO apples, no fruits. when we rch home, we saw an obvious shelf, full of apples, in der fridge. (15 at least), eye-level somemore.



that is her sis. their hse de TOOLS got some prob i guess..



even wit der help of SEVERAL, still cant handle that stubborn cock.
we didnt manage to have steamboat wit white wine. ): AWW. but later, they brought der wine to my place. we had choco fondue wit white wine!



CHEERIOS! we had more than 10 can of kickapo!
(oh my goodness. i dont know how to spell that.)
ehhhhh. WAIT WAIT WAIT.
according to reb's dictionary, she shouted "CHEEZE!" that stunned der rest of us n leaving us laughing lyk mad. hahaha..
during der steamboat. was SCOLDED by tong yi FOR having noodles and bak gua only. ): @#@!$!@ WHERE GOT?! haha. mind you! i ate most prawns n abalones okays! :D love golden mushrooms too (:

AFTER HAVING STEAMBOAT, reb's mum came back. had our ang bao~ exchange oranges wit her dad then, ZOOM! 8.30pm already. at der bus-stop, saw benedict n kate.

its abt 9 then they rch my hse. this time, IS I SERVE THEM. those da xiao jie, watch teevee, eat nougats, drink coke.. only jess came to help (: SEE. thats why i praise her most :s haha



look at those soft marshmallows and sour kiwi! x)



peeled and unpeeled apples, black seedless grapes!!



the pot of GOLD. haha..
dark choco cooked wit HL milk.
this choco sat aeroplane and flew to spore all der way frm america. it taste superb. who cares abt gain a few kilograms when we have luxurious choco! HUR! (i care.... :s) anw, THANKS reb!



(okay okay. TUCK IN!!)



obviously cant wait to try!



the three of em.
aint der marshmallows they're holding looks inviting?

THERE AND THEN, we had OUR GAME. poker 21!
its tong yi's idea again~~ EVIL GIRL!
totally transformed us, i say.



rebecca turned into a mad woman! thats very successful.
she got high n lose control suddenly~~ -.- haha



jessica got her whole face CRACKED!
she is so unlucky can! kept losing.. got cards that total to lyk 16 or 17 always. add oso cannot, dont add oso cannot. HAHAHA.. i swear we all laughed lyk pig! ke lian~



see lah! tong yi's face still so cute.. !$@@!#%!@$ most angry at her!!
no chance to draw her face de!! ARGH nver mind, that big circle on her left eye is artistically done my me (:



LOOK. im like dunno wad animal.. if you realise, my nose hole is esp BIG. know why? tong yi enlarged em. so mean rights?



YUCK! so ugly fuggy....



reb tong shan jess



YAYS. toilet cleeeeeeaning party!
no, no clean toilet. is face!



eeeek! thank God for those body shop make-up remover!



clean clean clean... lalala~~ lala~



used those remaining choco to create ART. hahaha..
wad a waste. expensive choco for this piece of very nice art..
that sums up the day! <3>

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Friday, February 23, 2007


i really wanted to reeeeeally mug today. i planned to just stuck my head into those stacks of papers n notes. but, sighs.

went nicky's hse to study today. instead; i got traumatized badly by his dog. that bitch. cries. it looks exaggerating to cry when a dog is barking at you. nicky told me that barking is der only language that a dog can express. well. i too agree, and i know it's cute. but hello, still, its fear factor for people lyk me. in der end, i couldnt f-concentrate. not much notes. not even a proper chapter was done. ):

after that, i went for cellgrp in evening. just rch home. no word was shared. not even praise or worship. just plain lao yu sheng n shredding that honey baked chicken. haha. yu sheng was frm sake sushi. salmon was yummy. thanks kaixin!

hmm. obviously im ready for sleepless night tonight. but feeling so sleepy now already~~ down.

(will find time to blog abt my cny days (: esp my day 4 wit poly clique. )

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Tuesday, February 20, 2007


REPLYING TAGS <3

catriona: yes yes. go to some cafe and slack whole day! :D
jenny
: miss u too (: hehs.
masaki: happy cny! love u too.
jun: dont ask. anw, happy cny (:
alice: happy cny (: haha. me too!
jiawen: woo. i jux met up wit lilian last wk. :p hmm. im already in networking~~
Ivan: LINKED (:
alvin: happy valentines' too. haha. passed so long lers :s
zoe: i miss u too.. ): when's ur attachment?
'pris.: dear! yes. when's our next crapping session? wanna cam-whore wit u so much!
dorina nuer: LINKED daughty! and u nver gimme ur address girl. haha
dawn: happy working! complete ur attachment fast fast kae? hahah. then i can go ur hse..
gladys: u mux enjoy too. cannot everytime see ppl enjoy de!
darren: okay. i love stoning.
lish`: thanks.
cher: AH. how're u doing girl? haven been hearing frm u.


NUMBER ONE.
ive revamped my frenster and replied testimoniers! if i miss out any jux bug me. hehe. YAYS. lyk finally have der time.

NUMBER TWO.
CHINESE NEW YEAR!
man, i tell u. chinese new year is one of my best days in the whole semester. LOLS. and im so proud to say, i slp more than 12 hours EVERYDAY. woots! reason being, i can slp all i want. (: who cares? its PIG's year anw. haha.

and i NEVER TOUCH BOOKS AT ALL. because granny says its inauspicious to touch books during new year. i might LOSE all der way. therefore, im obedient enough not to even study. HAHA. smack that;

i ate a lot too. esp those oily food and fattening goodies blah. my cousins told me this, "aiya. dont care lah. one year one time only. eat a bit wont have much effects one lah". and that's VERY encouraging for those inviting goodies to be gombled. haha.
kae lah. i'll elaborate more NEXT time.

NUMBER THREE.



im always saying, "oh. i miss u. oh. i miss her. oh. i miss him." but this time, its sth diff. im saying i miss this girl really badly. JESSIE. she's my best fren. best girlfren since secondary sch. (besides ac5 hehs.) i know when i fall, she'll rush to be here for me, to catch me, no matter wad. and thats wad frens are for. my many good frens are always beside. thats y i'll never know, if i fall or leave, they will still be right here for me anots. but she's diff. we braved through thunder storms and that made us closest.

today's her first day attachment. hope everything goes well for her. (: LOVES HER.
in march, we'll be dating out again! cant wait :p

LASTLY;



haha. girls that appear in der above art will be going for steamboat at reb's hse later. bai nian bai nian (: BYE!

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Monday, February 19, 2007


HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR!!
u happy, i happy (:

today's day TWO of new yr. hahaha. sorry people. failed to blog on new year's day midnight. didnt manage to survive the night. never mind. my parent's wld still be having long-life anw. :p

rched home at 2+am. tired~~ so never blog. hmm. see how tonight. if can den i'll blog! :) going out now. BYE!



to uknowme, thanks for that.. its very sweet. really. but im sorry.. dont worry. we're still frens alrights? you'll find better girls than me (: i also wish you all der best!

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Saturday, February 17, 2007


hello people!
im goin to blog tonight~!! hahas. wont be slping throughout der night. SHOU SHUI for my parents. and all those who wont be slping, meet me online okays? maybe we can chat overnight! LOVES.
so excited abt cny. but still no mood yet. hmm. contradicting--.

btw; ive received my first red packet frm my dad's boss's daughter! yays. LOLS. its $60. hmm.

GOING FOR TUITION NOW.
WORKING SLAVE~

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Thursday, February 08, 2007


IF ONLY i could lie flat on my bed n enjoy sleeping..
guess that moment would be a luxurious one.

im so so drop-dead tired.
yes. i slept last night. one glorious hour. counted?
luckily i manage to pull off today's paper.
ps: studying at mac wit clique is fun.
hahahhaa. its really not bored, n less stress. LOVES.

haven even study cost accounting n innovation at all. hello? hear me? i say never touch study materials AT ALL; when im left wit practically 7 hrs to my papers.

4hrs for cost accounting, 3 hrs for innovation tech.
dont bother me.
my hours are never punctual.

good news! animation project submission date is extended till 12th. means mon. i can still do some touch ups n debug my action scripts. but; wonder if elijh will be more strict for those who submit on extended date. some black-hearted lecturers mght be.

pushing myself over limits.
now waiting for derek to scan his set of cost accounting revision notes for me.
n im taking this very short break while waiting for him.
THANK YOU SO MUCH BOY. (:
siawying's not online! where did she go? hmm.
aft tonight; i'll register myself as a full-time pig.
i wan to sleeeeeeeeep all i wan.

oh. is there cellgrp tmr? shld be.
wad time? usual 7.30pm?
i might faint over there at serangoon.

cant rem anything now. mind's so blank.
pray for me if u still have a heart-.

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Tuesday, February 06, 2007


TODAY; i'll be blogging abt some legend. one of my poly bestie.
this post is specially dedicated to him.
he always ask me why aint he not blogged abt.
guess im able to ans now..
maybe because at that time,
we haven went through much of bad times yet.
besties are those who still walk tog even aft rough roads
get it boy?

many many thought he's my boyfren.
no. he's not.

breathe~ hooooo~~ hoooooooo~~~
happy bdae to my bestie, ALVIN ONG (:
you're not forgotten okays?



in times of broke-ness, theo n me shared a keychain frm lala-land n a super cute card for him. (hope he likes both!)

- did i mention something? i talked to AO a lot abt stuffs n life recently. erm.. its where both of us when J8 for shopping. plain shopping. we talked a lot. we realised that we're lyk so apart. n he told me i was the one who initiated drifting this frenship apart. i was obviously "HMPF". we once pledged to become super bestie in our lifes, n no matter if we got attached or wad, we'll still remain besties. then i told him that i was disappointed wit him.

our conversation was SOMETHING lyk that.
(obviously not all contents are revealed, only der gist)

ao: weishan. can we go back to last time? where we're very close n good frens? u, me n theo.. i kinda miss it.
me: (hmpf! this hypocrite. -.-) oh. u missed it?
ao: ya. hai.. actually those were der times thats best in my poly life.
me: (actually for me, IT IS too! wait- it is FOR YOU too?) same here.
ao: wad actually happened?
me: (oooh! he finally ask der golden qn!) ahem. im disappointed wit u.
ao: HUH? in wad?
me: rem u once told me that we're besties? n someone told me THAT, they asked if u treat weishan as ur best fren. u said NO. (how cruel!) since then, i tot u're fake.
ao: I DIDNT. u dont trust me? i never once said such a thing. i always treated u as my bestie.
me: (still wan deny~) okay then. how do u explain this?
ao: wah! u dont trust me? cfm they jealous. impoosible.... i cfm i never..... i cfm...... (n he sweared to me.)

i believe him. maybe cos we shared a lot in those days.
was a lil sorry for misunderstanding him. i shld have asked him abt this earlier. for one whole sem i treated him as a pure normal fren only. sorry AO. my ears r too soft. ppl say wad i believe. gotta make my own judgments sometimes. black is black, white is white. how could i stayed at der grey zone for so long?

now; the photo sharing time!
(still, wasnt able to upload ALL.
till now, the amt of photos taken was still a record yet to break.)



IT fair. btw; we always got EACH OTHER in troubles.
i look ugly fuggy in this photo. but wadeva lah.
(being his girlfren can be very tough.)



that day before the shop close, both of us rushed into flesh imp to try out these jackets; taken fitting room.



free neoprints (: we got tons of all these.



no worries. we pay too (:



our recognition.
our club haven FALL!!



night before, he told theo n me, no matter who's promoted or remain as member, we got to stay as good frens. i teared.



our secret celebration.



after our tiring first excos training. on TEACHERS DAY.



AH! SPIDERS :s
(yes. i look extremely retard.)
he look lyk a monk wit a spider demon seducing him!



oh my gooodness. he forced me wit this rubbsih bin. AT IKEA. imagine der eyes of surrounding ppl. HAHAHA!



shanghai tan!! x)



roasted pig n roasted nut during sports champ!
difference: red n YELLOW!



at coffee bean aft SIT club open hse 2007.



mooncake festival.
so tell me, who can BAI CHI wit me so much?

and on sat many went for advance celebration at satay club. though i promised AO real much, i still didnt manage to go. they took many photos n i saw all! envy~ BUT! i caught great word n fresh anointing frm Rev Ulf Ekman instead. so, no regrets =)

now's muggering period. so screwed wit flash project. ARGH. but really thank God for wisdom n double-efficiency.. tmr meeting old gang to study again. (AO! dont be late arh!)

lets bring back the good old times tog.
following photos have got a whole chain of history attached n memories..




did u know i was labeled EGG since last last sem?



fight fight fight!! those quarrelsome times were oso der most fun times!



hope ten years down der road, the three super good frens will stay the same.

and nicky, and excos, and classmates, and......

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